Comments (14)

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PoofessorP - 2020-12-18 04:59:54 UTC

If this gets accepted/rejected I don't mind too much either way :p I'm usually playing UHC games instead of arena, I just found this to be a pretty annoying feature whenever I'm on the arena because I can't really get any fights in before I play a uhc because usually people are just trying to light others on fire instead of fighting, so I thought if the frequent arena players found that annoying too they could upvote it or downvote it if they like having that

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iiKaity - 2020-12-18 07:27:46 UTC

I think getting rid of it in some senses would be useful cause when people fight in the arena if someone gets a good combo on you the other person spams Flint and steel upon dying so when they drop back down the second time they can kill you because of the fire damage like you said but then there's other times where it can be useful so I'm like in between but I do get what you mean cuz there are some players that just spam it just to be annoying and don't even try to fight you

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PrivateLimitless - 2020-12-18 08:07:02 UTC

There are more reasons about why people run in FFA then just using the Flint and Steel. There is also bows and people abusing the double-hit rod glitch in 1.8 PvP. Are we going to get rid of those items, too, while we're at it? It is annoying, but it certainly helps people who have disadvantages when fighting people who can just immediately pearl away if they needed to. Running works both ways, the one whom lights the fire and the one whom is set on fire.

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PrivateLimitless - 2020-12-18 19:40:34 UTC

On a side note, I think it would be a good if we made it so that there was like a 20% chance of a pearl on a kill, and 10s on NoClean so that the game isn't solely based off of cleaning players and is actually enjoyable to play when you aren't just getting fed kills to build up a kill streak, and basically make you un-killable.

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KaiNoMood - 2020-12-20 14:39:04 UTC

PrivateLimitless you can make a separate suggestion

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PrivateLimitless - 2020-12-28 22:18:44 UTC

Getting rid of the Flint and Steel would make fighting completely one-sided, which is the thing I would think we would be avoiding not implementing.

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JoeGosh - 2021-01-03 10:21:36 UTC

I hope FNS isn't going because its part of the PVP and you just have to learn to escape it or use it properly.

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PoofessorP - 2021-01-03 23:36:38 UTC

I hope that FNS isn't staying because 2 players have voiced their favorable opinion on the item, the post has 7 upvotes so it's clear that players don't wish for it to stay. It's not a key part of arena pvp too. It's not the fact that players don't know how to work around it or use it, or escape it properly. It's the fact that players just straight up don't like it, it's not fun when all players do in arena is try to light you on fire and don't even fight until they can light you on fire. Fair amount of good players that I've talked to that know how to work with fns have voiced the fact that they don't like it

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JoeGosh - 2021-01-07 10:32:01 UTC

Flint and steel is fine, part of PVP! Its a good thing, and I quite like it, it counters the sword or the bow so you can get away :)

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PrivateLimitless - 2021-01-15 04:16:29 UTC

We could have two different FFA Arenas: One without and Flint and Steels and one without, which people will likely play since the one without will be for sweats. Seems fair.

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KaiNoMood - 2021-01-15 18:52:34 UTC

@PrivateLimitless
We are not a big community, I can't do that.

@PoofessorP
Let everyone say their opinion in the comments, no matter how much "votes" the suggestion got.
Anyone can bring their opinion and anyone can still change their vote.
Also, I take the final decision on what gets done, regardless of the votes.

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KaiNoMood - 2021-01-29 16:45:04 UTC

Although I think flint and steel is part of the game, I think the FnS is being abused by people with longer kill streaks. When you kill someone, you get the victim's Flint and Steel, and basically you can stock tons of flint and steel (and even put flint and steel together in the crafting table to "repair" them). It makes them being able to continuously use flint and steel to flee fights.

I believe something can be done about it.

My solution is:

• when you join the game, you get 3 flint and steel uses.
  
• after killing someone, your flint and steel will be reset to 3 uses.
  

With this simple system, you won't be able to use flint and steel more than 3 times without killing someone after that. I believe that this way people cannot escape fights indefinitely because of players having too many flint and steel uses.

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SayWellz - 2021-02-04 05:54:56 UTC

fns isnt even op if you not dog water theres water on the map everywhere

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PoofessorP - 2021-02-04 08:57:00 UTC

Well, quite frankly, LILWAYNE I'm dog water and not everyone is as pvp pro as you are. There is 2 bodies of water on the arena map so it's not everywhere, but I do wish for this suggestion to be moved to rejected's because it seems that players would prefer a flint and steel arena which is alright, whatever people prefer is nice. Plus some better alternatives have been supplied by others

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